Out With The Old And In With The New : The Three 6 Mafia Debate
This is something new that Jackson from over at The Fight Testthought would make for an interesting post.
The Old Three 6 vs. The New Three 6
Jackson vs. Steve
What Jackson Said About Ye Ole Three 6 Mafia:
Hopefully, the title of this blog gets you thinkin' "Is there really any contest between the two? Old Trips muhfuckasssssss!" And yes, I agree. But, since I pulled out "The End" (1996) I figured that I'd break it down for some of you that either forgot how awesome their old stuff is or have never even heard it. Let's break it down:
1. Beats
Old Three 6 beats are funky as hell. They don't just thump, they have twang and that old school feel to them. They fit the music- they seem street, grimey. Don't get me wrong, the beats are still killer, they're just not overdone. New Triple 6 beats are made to ride to, they seem to lack substance because they're just so goddamn overproduced. They come off as superficial, overpower the lyrics and come off as the only real focus in their new songs.
For a comparison check out "Good Stuff" (The End) and "Knock the Block Off Yo Ass" (Most Known Unknowns)
2. Lyrics
I remember laughing my ass off listening to class 3-6. Their lyrics are killer, just straight gangsta. The new stuff seems to just talk about money and hos, and if you ask me, that's trite and cliche. Back in the day they were just, well.. I'll say it again, grimey. But, at the same time, the old 3-6 songs weren't always completely ridiculous and crazy, some songs have a real message to them.
"In-2-Deep" (The End) vs. "Poppin' My Collar" (Most Known Unknowns)
3. Members
There's no doubt that the old members added some of the best parts to 3-6 songs. Scarecrow (Lord Infamous) by far had the sickest flow with the best voice. He was just a killer addition to any song. Then, throw in Gangsta Boo and La Chat's (who were probably more crazy than the Juice Man or Dj Paul) hood lines and fast flow and you've got a combo. But, I don't remember the last time they were in a track (wiki says Gangsta Boo broke away from the group in '01 citing "religious differences")! There's no doubt that I do love Juicy J, Dj Paul, Frayser Boy and Lil' Flip though. Lil Whyte on the other hand, well, his voice annoys the hell out of me and he seems incapable of consistency.
"Body Full of Bullet Holes" (I don't think this ever went on any of the albums or compilations) vs. "Doe Boy Fresh" (from upcoming album "Last 2 Walk")
Side note: Check out Juicy J's solo album "Chronicles of the Juiceman", I used to get crazy to that album in high school all the time. It's so much fun.
I For One Love The New Three 6 Mafia:
The only thing that me and Jackson could agree on about Three 6 Mafia is we're both super stoked for the NEW Three 6 Mafia album "Last 2 Walk". In my opinion the old Three 6 Mafia was just a basket full of melodies, horrible rhyme skills and a pinch of humor thrown in for good measure.
1. Beats
While the beats of yesteryear were funky back then, take a listen today you'll quickly realize how outdated they are. The reason that the mafia has emerged as a hip-hop supergroup as of late is because of the incredible producing skills of the duo of Juicy J and DJ Paul. Overproduced and superficial? Half of the beauty in the new mafia style is they have left behind that garage band rap music they used to produce, they moved on from that and their Grammys, platinum albums, and
2. Lyrics
When me and Jackson first talked about this I said that lyrically that Three 6 had declined. I need to take that back after listening to Most Known Unknown and some select tracks from the Hustle And Flow soundtrack. Three 6 Mafia still makes music for the hood, except now it's matured to the point where you can actually hear it in the suburbs and you don't have to call the kid blasting it a wigger. It's ridiculous how vulgar, violent, and uncredible the old mafia's music was. Nothing about the old Three 6 Mafia hooked you on the first listen, no one hears "slob on my knob" and thinks it's an incredible song that will go down as one of the greatest songs of all time. I've been a fan of Three 6 forever, but it wasn't until Most Known Unknown that I was even able to get through a full album without skipping around. Grimey? No. Mature and Hood? Damn straight.
3. Members
Who really cares? The thing that makes Three 6 Mafia such a great hip-hop group is unlike most groups or bands no single member has ever seemed more important than the other. Look at every amazing group or band that has ever been, they all fall apart due to money thrown at their feet or spotlight on their face. In Three 6 if you don't like what's going on you're shown the door. Officially the only members of Three 6 are DJ Paul and Juicy J and Project Pat is a Solo act. However the greatest thing about Three 6 is their ability to work with so many different people in the industry and aside from a few squabbles in the early 90s they don't have any beef with anyone. They record all the time whether for themselves or the rest of the Hypnotized Minds roster, not to mention the hundreds of collaborations and producing credits they have to their name. With all that who needs b-class acts supporting them.
And Jackson.. Lil Wyte's voice might be annoying but not only is he one of the best white rappers alive, he one of the best rappers alive.
My Verdict:
Three 6 Mafia is truly proof that going mainstream doesn't mean you suck it just means that your garage fanbase is going to decline and you're going to make loads of money. Three 6 Mafia is stronger than they've ever been and if you want to stay in 1996 and listen to beats produced on a $5 dollar keyboard and lyrics rejected by Will Smith and Kriss Krossbe my guest, however this kid is going to look towards the future and for Three 6 Mafia I will be wearing my aviators because it looks bright.
As Always, DMS
Check Out Jackson And His Amazing Reviews Over At
His Blog
Nice job.. although I still think you're full of shit. ;)
This whole system is full of shit.
Just kidding of course.
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